Author: Sal
All Hallows Eve: Happy New Year To All Pagans
Friday, 31st October, 2008 at 11:44 am, Isle of Wight
Come sundown today, Pagans and Wiccans on the Island will be starting their New Year celebrations as they mark the end of the harvest season and welcome in the New Year.
It is also a time to remember and celebrate the lives of those who have passed on, paying their respects to loved ones that have died, including ancestors and pets.
Pointed out in The Telegraph Times today, is news that the number of pagans in Albany Prison has doubled over the last four years and the prison now has 34 inmates who practice Paganism.
The paper goes on to explain that traditionally Pagans partake in a tipple of cider as part of the celebrations, but Pagan inmates at Albany will have to make do with an apple on the altar as a substitute for cider.
As mentioned by forum member, Good Fairy, this point in the year is also a time to remember to respect the earth, respect the self and respect each other. Wise words.
So, Happy New Year to all Pagans and Wiccans on the Island. May the next couple of days bring joy and happy memories for you all.
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and to you and yours
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what a kind thing to write , happy all hallows to every one , we had 2 lots of wonderful children all very polite and with a grown up ,ask for trick or treat ,
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p.s. there is a meeting at the long stone at 4pm tomorrow , wrap up warm , and hope for fine weather ,
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AFAIK albany’s population consists entirely of sex offenders/vulnerable prisoners.
i don’t suppose conventional clergy, ministering to inmates, are happy about wiccan beliefs being expressed.
one sip of wine is a lousily insufficient allowance IMO.
i’ve read that italian prisoners are allowed to purchase wine and beer which is cool, if true.
anyone wanting to debate halloween with Xtians can go to :
http://www.premier.org.uk/news/current/halloween.aspx
http://www.premiercommunity.org.uk/forum/topics/2060181:Topic:11491?page=5&commentId=2060181%3AComment%3A33437&x=1
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They really don’t have a clue do they.
Halloween is a christian festival, not a pagan one.
Our festival is call Samhain.
Trick or treat has its origins in 17th/18th century Europe when many folk traditions found their way to the Americas. It is derived from pagan practice, but far less so than Easter, named after the pagan Goddess Eostre whose sacred animals are rabbits and symbol eggs.
As for cliaming it is all about human sacrifise, I would refer one to a certain crucifiction supposedly 2009 years ago
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according to a letter in metro from surrey resident j.fitzgerald – hallowe’en is a christian “night of light” where the glory of the saints in heaven is celebrated – it’s not the pagan night of darkness it has become.
“this year the feast of all saints has been moved from the saturday to the sunday (november 2) making hallowe’en this year saturday night not friday october 31″ !?
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kj,
I think you’ll find your dates are out.
The Christian calendar starts from a date around the time (maybe 3 or 4 years out) of Jesus’ birth, not His death.
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Jesus if such a character exists was born in Septemeber.(or July) a fact we know because the Romans documented their census very well.
The birthdate was moved to December in the 3rd century to compete with the pagan festival which we know of as Yule.
My comparrison of claims for human sacrifice was just for comparison, not meant to represent festivals.
Seb it was never a pagan ‘night of darkness’ the Trick or treat aspect game from Christian Europe and has been popularised/commercialised via America to become part of the All Hallows Eve Festival.
Samhain was different in that it was a fire festival that marked the end of one cycle and the beginning of another (hense it being called the ‘pagan new year)it was a time when the dead of the year were celebrated and normal conventions did not apply ( the chief dressed as a peasent, men as women & vice a versa etc from which the dressing up probably derived..but they didn’t dress as ghost and monsters) It was the last feast of the year where food not able to be stored was eaten (unlike Yule, which was the festival where the food that would not survive to Spring was eaten)Yule also celebrate the birth of the Summer King
The term Easter has no Christian connection and is associated with the Roman Matronalia or Mothers Day, which we, again, still celebrate. Eostre was an Anglo Saxon Goddess associated with birth (rebirth) hense the choosing of the date for Jesus’s ressurection
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The original Eostre ‘bunny’ was almost certainly a mythical egg-laying hare – not a rabbit.
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I imagine that the distinction between hares and rabbits was a pretty fine one in the pre-Christian era. Both are associated with fertility, but perhaps rabbits have the edge!
Our hare at Arreton (http://ventnorblog.com/hare-and-magpies-at-arreton/) certainly hasn’t produced any eggs…
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Those Romans, eh, kj? So well documented that we can’t be sure if He existed, but if He did He was born in July, or September!
I was actually replying to your comment about a ‘crucifiction’ (deliberate witty pun or poor spelling?) 2009 years. Wouldn’t it be closer to 1975 years ago, given that, if He actually existed, He was probably around 33 when he died?
Or were you talking about somebody else altogether?
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Incidentally, the ‘choosing’ of the date of Jesus’ resurrection would surely relate (quite closely) to the date of His death which is reasonably easy to place because He shared a Passover meal with His disciples shortly before He was crucified. I can recommend the Gospels as good source material for this. ;-)
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“Or were you talking about somebody else altogether?”
Brian Cohen, I expect.. :-)
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indeed it would have been closer to 1975 years ago…most people place him at 33-35.
So well documented that we can be sure of the dates of the census that Mary and Joseph were on their way back to Bethlehem to answer….there is no documentary evidence of anybody beingcalled Jesus being crucified…which isn’t a surprise as they crucified many thousands of people. The Romans record keeping was excellent however in relation to tax purposes, which included the census.
Of course the fact that it was a passover feast could simply have been an added detail in the various bad translations to justify the date ;-)
I always find this helpful………….if somebody could explain it :-)
http://quasar.as.utexas.edu/BillInfo/ReligiousCalendars.html
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Quote “I can recommend the Gospels as good source material for this. ;-)”
The gospels are the ONLY source material for this….and accurate they ain’t :-)
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wonderful news!
my local tesco is selling off hallowe’en goodies (e.g. “freaky chocolates”) at half-price – although since they’re probably overpriced by at least 50% this isn’t that much of a bargain.
if you can time it right supermarkets often write down discounts even further when they want to clear the shelves.
after christmas i obtained £10 boxes of chocO
olates for 50p; xmas packs of beer reduced from £12 to £1 etc.
no doubt, they’ll be doing the same with hallowe’en stock.
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p.s. i’ve received thousands of emails from blog readers asking if they can still celebrate hallowe’en if they get sent to broadmoor!
the answer is a resounding YES – there’s nothing more therapeutic for the mentally deranged than being encouraged to indulge in occult practices!
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p.p.s.tonight’s `new tricks`involves human sacrifice and a witches’ coven.
04 Nov 2008 21:00 BBC One
Drama series featuring an eccentric bunch of ex-policemen, brought out of retirement to investigate unsolved crimes.
When an unbalanced young woman comes forward, insisting that the suspicious death of a lonely librarian was down to witchcraft, the team are drawn into the world of the occult. Put under increasing pressure by a series of strange events, the squad struggles to remain cynical about the supernatural.
sounds like fun!
trick or treat?
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compelling message from God.
no more hallowe’en for seb – or i’ll burn forever in the fiery pits of hell!!
http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=b5048a6579de2a879e4e
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Thank god most christians are sensible normal people with a sense of humour.
Its a shame about the evangelical loons who make these videos
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peaches – fascination with the occult.
from the daily star
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2nd November 2008
PEACHES Geldof fell for her rocker hubby Max Drummey after discovering his fascination with a Satanist.
The pair wed in Las Vegas after a four-week romance and are said to have bonded over their love for occultist Aleister Crowley.
Crowley, dubbed the Great Beast, died in 1947 but his fondness for drug abuse, spells and ritualistic sex has lived on through his followers.
We can reveal Peaches, 19, has become fascinated by Crowley — who filed his teeth into fangs and started his own religion — since picking up
his book Magick Without Tears.
French singer Drummey, 23, was also a student of Crowley’s dark works.
Last night a source close to the couple said: “Peaches is obsessed with Crowley’s books and is completely taken by his teachings.
“Most of her mates think she’s nuts for getting into it all — they just think it’s too weird — but she found a kindred spirit when she met Max.
“Peaches feels he’s the only one who understands her. He even has the Crowley quote ‘Quo stet olympus’ or ‘Where the gods and angels live’
tattooed below his neck.”
“If Sir Bob wasn’t worried about Peaches before, he will be now.”
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Nothing wrong with Crowley when seen in the context of the early century ‘arty’ crowd he plundered. An average writer, excellent chess player and mountineer. The press loved him as much as they love Peaches and he thrived on their lies.
He was not a Satanist, most of his dieties were mystical Jewish, Egyptian and Greek.
“Magick without Tears” is an OK all round book, but makes very light work of the very hard work required by practitioners and followers of Crowley (he didn’t start his own religion).
LIke many things, including, religion it will mess up further a messed up head
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